Fuck you in the arse and the eye
...but it’s certainly worth reading.
Tags: really fucking depressing
a) George Bush is a fucking tool
b) George Bush is coming to the UK
c) This is a Bad Thing
d) Manticore!!
Just noticed this old-ish thread on Rachel’s site (I linked to the post at the time, but the comments have sprawled somewhat since then).
Antipholus Papps, sometime of this parish, makes a pretty reasonable point (and gets utterly crucified by self-righteous cunts for his pains):
the reason that some people question what happened on 7 July 2005 is down to the government being a bunch of lying murderous bastards who start wars on false premises.
NB if you’re as stupid as some of the respondents in the original thread, you might take this as implying that either the bombings were excused by the Iraq war, or that they were done by the government. He isn’t saying that.
He’s saying that since the government have lied about more or less everything, particularly regarding evidence of Terrorism and Evil Stuff, to disbelieve their narrative concerning the biggest example of Terrorism and Evil Stuff we’ve seen domestically is hardly unreasonable.
Now, as Rachel’s original piece makes clear, the government has released credible evidence that the July 7 bombings were indeed carried out by the four people reported as carrying them out, for the purposes for which they were reported as carrying them out. So, as I’ve said elsewhere, people who continue to believe the conspiracy narrative are daft cunts.
But this evidence was released in the conspiracy trials that took place in spring 2008 – which means that there was a period of nearly three years where accepting that the July 7 bombings took place as reported meant uncritically believing the words of people who are known to lie about This Sort Of Thing.
I don’t know about you, but I’m reluctant to blame anyone for their historical reluctance to uncritically believe the words of liars…
Unsurprisingly, given the generally accepted lameness of the UK’s would-be terrorists, nobody even bothered to argue with my assessment that if the police’s evidence against Andrew Ibrahim is accurate, he’s a schoolboy dilettante with fuck all in the “explosives worth bothering with” stakes.
The teenager has been accused of possessing Hexamethylene Triperoxide Diamine, also known as HMTD, which is an explosive organic chemical compound. He has also been accused of possessing, among other items, two home-made vests, a quantity of ball bearings, a quantity of air gun pellets, a quantity of nails and screws, wired circuitry, batteries and electric bulb filaments.
Now, homemade HMTD is almost completely fucking useless, since it either doesn’t work at all or explodes while you’re still carrying it (properly made HMTD hasn’t been commercially available for years for related reasons), and creating it requires the chemistry skills of a half-trained ape. And as far as the other items go, anyone could get hold of them given half an hour’s shopping time.
Given all that, then if he is guilty, I’m actually vaguely impressed the rozzers managed to nick Mr Ibrahim (and once again, it’s very good evidence that if anyone was planning anything serious against the UK that required non-trivial explosives and an actual conspiracy of people, they’d already be in jail…). Perhaps the years of utterly pointless raids on home MDMA and LSD labs have actually provided “watch out if person X buys chemical Y” skills that are vaguely transferrable – if so, this may well be the only positive consequence of the War On Drugs…
[for the avoidance of doubt, I do think it’s a good thing that Mr Ibrahim is on trial, just as I’d prefer it if anyone accused of saying that they were going to kill me, and then firing an airgun at me from 100 yards away while blindfolded in the fervent belief that it would do me serious harm, were to go on trial…]
Berlusconi says tackling Naples’ rubbish crisis will be among his top priorities – “fucking southerners, even their crises are rubbish”.
Aborigines ‘were used in experiments’ – “how much kerosene can one man drink in six hours?”
7/7 friend had 9/11 photographs – “where were the other 2?”
The last one is a bit of a daft story, though. If having photographs of September 11 in one’s browser cache is an indicator that one is a terrorist, then you’re fucked:

Another glorious day in the annals of the Thousands And Thousands Of Deranged Jihadist Fifth Columnists Trying To Kill Us All: a daft white middle class boy arrested with a house full of the crap Anarchist Cookbook bombs you make when you’re 14. I imagine we’ll find that he got caught after buying a sack of bicarbonate of soda over the internet.
And people are scared of these clowns? People actually give them more thought than ten seconds of laughter? For fuck’s sake…
Which dead fighter left this message for his daughter?
“Sweetheart… I’m going to really, really miss you a lot. I’m thinking about it already. Look, I absolutely love you to bits and you have been the happiest thing in my life. You and your mum, absolutely brilliant.“I don’t know what else to say. I just wish I could have been part of your life, especially these growing up – these next months, they’re really special with you learning to walk and things. I just so much wanted to be with you but I have to do this thing for our future and it will be for the best, in the long run.
“That’s the most important thing…. you’ve got loads of people to look after you and keep and eye on you. And I’m doing what I’m doing for the sake of our country.”
Answer? With a couple of Islam references changed to patriotism references, it was Mohammed Siddique Khan, the total bastard who blew himself on the Underground in July 2005, and persuaded a small bunch of other idiots to do likewise.
But it sounds like any other speech by an articulate man gone to war to kill whomever his leaders told him to kill. I guess the point which needs reinforcing is that there’s nothing weird, wrong or unusual about wanting to die for a cause – fuck, I’m cynical and there are even causes I’d die for. And if you think there’s something weird about wanting to kill others while you do that – then doublefuck, there are courses in human nature that you need.
The bit which is weird about suicide terrorism in the UK is purely and simple that we think of the people who do it as being like us, but they think of us in the same way that British soldiers thought of Germans in WWI, Argie conscripts in the Falklands, Iraqi militiamen today, and so on.
Draw your own conclusions as to why this might be the case. Guardian readers should start from the perspective of George Bush and the Zionist lobby’s desire to slaughter any innocent brown chap that moves; while Daily Mail readers should start from the perspective of the inherent murderousness of the paedophile prophet.
[yes, I know this is based on the same article as the last piece. However, it’s two very different points that really, really, really, really don’t need conflating; this one is rightly incredibly contentious, whereas the other one shouldn’t even need making but does…]
The headline is hardly news; it’s a well-known fact that joking with Yanks about subjects such as Vietnam, the KKK, 9/11 and Iraq is something that generally doesn’t go down well. As highlighted by the previous post.
[special PDF competition: £100 plus medical bills for the remainder of their life will be paid to the first person to go up to a New York fireman and go with “what’s the odd one out of Vietnam, the KKK, 9/11 and Iraq? 9/11, cos none of the other victims deserved it”]
So my sympathy for pissed-up Northern Irish idiot Aidan Mackle is somewhat limited. Nonetheless, holding a drunken Irishman on terrorist charges for slurring “I’m Bin Laden’s mate and he’ll hijack your plane if you don’t give me more booze” is obviously crazy: if anyone, even for one second, thought the chap was a serious threat then they’re the one who should be locked up forever in a non-reality-based institution…
Update: I forgot to add that American airlines (small final A) are the worst in the world, that all of their crew thoroughly deserve murdered, and that for anyone who flies with them, being murdered by terrorists – or, indeed, being abused by an Irish drunk – would be a merciful release. Genuinely, I would rather fly fucking Aeroflot or Turkish Airlines than subject myself to another transatlantic flight on Delta, NWA, Continental or United. I haven’t yet flown AA, and would sooner grind broken glass into my eyes than do so, so there’s a small possibility I’m being unfair to them and them alone…
This antismoking advert is absolutely awesome.
Not, I hasten to add, because I disapprove of smoking and think it ought to be banned or anything. I love smoking; I just don’t like the way it makes me cough, snore like a bastard, and not be able to run for buses. Rather, I approve of the advert because:
1) people who think it’s awful and inappropriate to make jokes about September 11 are despicable cunts who should be made to stand in pairs and then have petrol-soaked model aeroplanes flown into their heads, and anything which offends them [*] is a good idea;
2) it makes the point that compared with preventable, dull and silly causes of death, terrorism is deeply irrelevant, and so anyone who thinks it’s in any way important, or that Teh War On Terra is one of the major problems facing Civilisation, or anything other than “a few nutjobs are a bit annoying, and stand a chance of killing you that’s so small you’re more likely to die of a stroke from worrying about it too much”, is a fucking idiot.
(via. And yes, I know it’s old. What, you mean you come here for the latest news, not crazy rants and occasional links to bestiality advice?)
[*] within reason. 9/11, although it doubtless offended such people quite a lot, still wasn’t a particularly good idea.
Thoughtcrime has been decriminalised again, even for brown chaps with beards.
If you disapprove of this Out Of Touch Liberal Setting Evil Bastards Who Hate Us Free-ness, and wish that these chaps (along with anyone else who’s ever read anything you disapprove of) could be clapped right back in chokey, they you thoroughly deserve to be exploded, decapitated, gang-raped, halal-ed, and generally everything else that you’re paranoid the darkies will do to you unless we keep them under lock and key…
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